State of the Dead

To Be Absent From the Body and Present with the Lord

    Whenever we approach the topic of what happens to a person when they die, there are two main systems of belief. 1) Either a person goes straight to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory when they cease their Earthly existence 2) The “dead” remain in the grave until Jesus calls them forth, when he returns to receive them unto Himself. (See John 14:3) Regardless of which belief system a person chooses to adhere, there are Bible texts that seem to support either of them. Quite often, Bible texts are misapplied or misinterpreted to fit an already established belief, but when we allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves (without adding to or subtracting from) the meaning of the texts are plain and the true doctrine, regarding what happens when a person dies, becomes plain.

    Much discussion around this topic is been centered on 2Corintians 5:6-11 in the Holy Bible.

    This passage reads:
    “Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
    Many will regard this passage as proof that a person goes to “be with the Lord” when the die (are absent from the body). In other words if a person were in such a state as to be absent from the body, it must mean that they have gone somewhere else. However, those who hold this belief, often take it a step further by saying that a person goes to Heaven when they die. The text in discussion does not say that, nor does any of the remaining portions of this passage, say that. Paul completely understood what happened when a Christians’ life ended – They went to sleep and are waiting in the grave for His return. If this were not true, then Paul’s words in 2Thessalonians 4:13-18 has no meaning, because there we find:
    “But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
    Here, Paul is teaching the Doctrine of the Second Coming.

    In 1Corinthians 15:12-26 is a passage that clarifies this issue quite succinctly, in saying:
    “Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.”
1Corinthians 15:40-57:
    “There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.”
    The Bible is very clear concerning what happens when a person’s life comes to an end on this earth. We know that as long as we are "at home in the body" we will not be able to be fully appreciate what it means to "walk in the Spirit." The Christian walk and the walk of those who are "in the flesh" are delineated throughout Scripture and we are given many opposites that make this principle clear. You can not serve God and Mammon.

    In Verse 10 we are told that we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. When is this to take place?

    In Hebrews 9:27, it is stated,
    “...as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
    This places the time of judgement AFTER a person dies (sleeps), and when it says “the second time”, it is speaking of the Second Coming of Christ. Could this mean that after each person dies, there is a judgment? I don't believe so. There one judgment, for all, at the end of time? How coulda person enter Heaven before the Judgment has taken place? Or to ask another way: Can a person be relegated to Heaven or Hell without, first, having been judged and without having been determined worthy of Eternal Life or eternal damnation? According to Scripture, the answer is No! If the judgment is after a person dies and a person cannot enter Heaven until after the judgment, then if we can find out when the judgment takes place, we will know more about when people go to Heaven.     First of all, we must accept the fact that there is no Judgment for the righteous. The Judgment is for the wicked. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ, Jesus. If it has already been determined that a person is no longer condemned, there would be no reason nor purpose in judging them. In fact, if a person is judged after they have already been assured of Eternal Life, then the promise of Eternal Life would be negated and faith would be valueless.

For we are told in Romans 7:25-8:2;
    “I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”

More important, Jesus said in John 11:25-26,

    “I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
    Notice that it is stated here that "whosoever LIVETH" AND "believeth" in Jesus "will never die." Those who will live, though they die, do not consist of those who only believe in Jesus, but those who believe AND live in Him.

Many people, today, believe and teach that "all" one has to do is believe in Jesus and they will be saved. The truth is that if they only accept Him as their Saviour, but fail to receive Him as Lord of their life and allow Him to be their guide, through the power of the Holy Spirit, they will NOT inherit Eternal Life. If they believe that they can accept the salvation that is offered only through Jesus Christ, but shun obedience and true repentance, they have been deceived. One cannot be saved unless they accept and adhere to the perfect plan that God has orchestrated on our behalf. Each of us, while our individual Christian experience may differ greatly, has not been given the privilege of developing our own plan of salvation. The plan of salvation as set forth by God is totally adequate and the same for all. When Jesus’ Blood was shed on Calvary, every man woman and child received forgiveness of Sin, deliverance from death and the grave and the promise and assurance of eternal life was granted FREELY to all.

    “As it is stated in Romans 5:18-21
    “Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Habakkuk 1:12
    “Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.

In Habakkuk 1:12 it is made plain that Habakkuk knew that he would not die, because he had given his life to the Lord. He also knew that those who come against God’s people have been "ordained" for judgment.”

    “We shall not die!” should be the cry of every Christian. It is a Promise of God. If a person liveth and believeth in Jesus, he/she will not die, because they have passed from death to life.

To clarify this point we must consider that there are 2 lives spoken of in Scripture. There is Life in Christ, which is righteous and eternal, and there is life outside of Christ, which is a life of condemnation and judgment. Let’s let Scripture make our point for us.

In Jesus words, recorded in John 5:24-29,

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

So, there are two lives, 1) everlasting life and 2) a life of condemnation. There are also two resurrections, 1) the resurrection of life, and 2) the resurrection of damnation. (There are also two deaths spoken of in Scripture. We will address these later in this study.) But in consideration of the point at hand, please notice where the people are when they hear Jesus’ voice. They are in the grave and are called forth, either to the resurrection of life or the resurrection of damnation.

To better present this point, let’s turn to another passage of Scripture that examples this line of thought. The passage is a large passage that offers much in illustrating the topic under discussion. I not include a posting of the entire passage, but rather, I will ask you to read it from the Bible and follow along as we quote the passage portion by portion, establishing and exploring each phrase as we consider this most enlightening passage. Please read John 11:1-45.

Jesus’ friend, Lazarus was sick and sisters Mary and Martha sent someone to find Jesus, so that Jesus would go to Lazarus and keep him from dying. Jesus’ response was, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus and one would think that He would hurry to Bethany and heal his friend, but this is not how Jesus responded.

"When he had heard therefore that he was sick, he abode two days still in the same place where he was."

Jesus did NOT hurry to Bethany save his friend’s life, he stayed where He was (by the Jordan river, where John was baptizing) for two more days and Lazarus died. Jesus said that "…this sickness is no unto death…," yet Lazarus died. Did Jesus lie? Of course not, but then, it becomes apparent, as we continue, that the people, even Jesus’ disciples misunderstood the reasoning by Jesus’ statement, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." They were confused about what happens when a person dies, but Jesus knew that there was something far more important that He was to teach and that was His power over death itself.

"Then after that saith he to his disciples, Let us go into Judaea again. 8 His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again? 9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. 10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him."

Jesus was not concerned about the actions that might be taken against him, if He were to return to or pass through Jerusalem on His way to Bethany. He had a mission that surpassed and eclipsed any human consideration for the welfare of self.

The next line of reasoning from Jesus’ lips is paramount to our current discussion.

"These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

In the process of healing, one of the most important factors is rest – sleep. While we sleep, our bodies heal. The disciples knew this, but the fact that they considered this, only revealed that they did not understand what Jesus was trying to tell them.

Verse 13:

"Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. 14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

It is clear, to the discerning mind, that Jesus not only referred to death as a sleep, but that this is the term he used, first, when informing that He was going to raise Lazarus from the dead. In Jesus’ own words, it is declared that death is a sleep. Not only did He declare this to His disciples, but to others also. (Please consider the raising of Jairus’ daughter in Luke Chapter 8, especially verse 39.)

Verse 15:

"And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye may believe; nevertheless let us go unto him. 16 Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellowdisciples, Let us also go, that we may die with him. 17 Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already. 18 Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off: 19 And many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother. 20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house. 21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. 22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. 23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

When Jesus told Martha that her brother, Lazarus, would rise again, she knew the truth concerning the resurrection and when it would take place. She knew that it would be at the last day. And, of course, this is what the whole of Scripture teaches. In John 5:24-29, Jesus says:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

The same doctrinal principle, found in John Chapter 5, is that which Jesus is now discussing with Martha. Notice that Jesus said, "…for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth…; unto one of two resurrections; either the resurrection of life (Eternal Life) or the Resurrection of Damnation. These are, clearly, two different resurrections. It does not say in these texts just when this would take place, but it is sure that it was to be at some time in the future. Please, notice also that Jesus said that "…all that are in the graves…" shall here His voice and shall come forth…" How could this be so if people are not in the grave when Jesus comes to receive them unto Himself. More pointedly, How could this be true if, in fact, people go to heaven or hell when they die?

The truth concerning this is made evident as we continue in our consideration of the raising of Lazarus, beginning again with verse 25.

"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. 28 And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her sister secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee. 29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him. 30 Now Jesus was not yet come into the town, but was in that place where Martha met him. 31 The Jews then which were with her in the house, and comforted her, when they saw Mary, that she rose up hastily and went out, followed her, saying, She goeth unto the grave to weep there. 32 Then when Mary was come where Jesus was, and saw him, she fell down at his feet, saying unto him, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. 33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled, 34 And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and see. 35 Jesus wept. 36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he loved him! 37 And some of them said, Could not this man, which opened the eyes of the blind, have caused that even this man should not have died? 38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it. 39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.

Lazarus had been in the grave for four days and as is the way of nature, every one knew that he would be stinking from decomposition after this period of time.

40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? 41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. 42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. 43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. 44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. 45 Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.

Jesus did not call Lazarus down from Heaven, but up from the grave. If Lazarus had gone to Heaven when he died (and surely, being a righteous man and friend of Jesus, he would have gone to Heaven when he died, if anyone did), then that is where Jesus would have called him back from. How cruel that would be, to have died and gone to Heaven and then, be called back from Heaven to Earth, just so Jesus could prove He had the power to do so. No this is not the point that Jesus was attempting to clarify. There were a number of particulars that Jesus, Himself, said he was trying to reveal.

  • That the Father, in Heaven would be glorified by this act of resurrection, verse 4 and 40
  • That He had (has) that Authority to execute judgment, verse 27.
  • That there are two resurrections verses 28 & 29 (See also Daniel 12:1-3.)

"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

What about the people who died while Jesus walked the Earth? If they had gone directly to Heaven when they died, Jesus would not have been there to meet them.

Matthew 22:30-33

"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

 

Ecclesiastes 12:7

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


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